In this episode we’re joined by Barry Kelly where he takes us on a journey from Default to Dynamic Measurement. Barry is the CEO and Co-founder of Thought Industries, the world’s leading B2B customer training platform provider. He is an external training champion, marketer, and digital learning innovator. His career has focused on supporting businesses to deliver impactful training experiences that increase customer lifetime value.

In this episode we discuss the “Rise of the Customer” with Sandi Lin, CEO and Founder at Skilljar.  Educating your customers, while not a new concept, is a muscle that many Software-as-a-Service companies haven’t flexed.  Listen in as Sandi shares her insight into the latest trends in Customer Education.

We’re getting into the holiday season, which means it’s a chance for us to take some time with our families and reflect on the year. In fact, we may be reflecting on the entire decade. It also means it’s a chance for us to let our hair down over at the CELab and have a little fun. So for this episode, our last for 2019, we’re going to talk about something that is close and personal to both Adam and Dave.

In this episode we talk shop about In-Product Education. There are many tools out there on the market like AppCues, Pendo, WalkMe, and more. Is this the new LMS? Listen in and we’ll break it down …

In this episode we share our experiences with one of the first “true” Customer Education events in our industry – Skilljar Connect 2019. Tune in to hear why this should be on your radar for 2020!

In this episode, Adam and Dave recap their experiences with DevLearn 2019! For Customer Education Professionals, this is an interesting event to check out, so join us as we explain what you can expect and how it can help you learn and expand your skills!

In this episode, Adam and Dave re-present the talk they gave at DevLearn 2019 in glorious Las Vegas, Nevada. Want to learn how to get a seat at the leadership table? Return-on-Investment for Customer Education will help get you there!

In this episode, we talk with Mason Levy – CEO of Swivl about Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning. Sound scary? Is this the start of Skynet? Absolutely not. Listen in to learn how Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning – paired with Human Intelligence can help your Customer Education program. Learn more at!

This episode is a rebroadcast of an interview hosted by Nikki Engel of Northpass with Adam Avramescu where Adam shares the tale of why you need a Customer Education program. If your company is on the fence about the value of a Customer Education program, make sure you share this episode with them!

When companies start their first customer academies and education programs, they’re often filled with boring and irrelevant material that doesn’t resonate with customers, and doesn’t really help them get on board. Why is this? Matt Mulholland from Miro has a theory and shares his hypotheses based on his work as a CSM and customer educator responsible for building Miro’s academy programs.